Talk:Economy of England

Lead image

I think this image would be better suited for the lead image as it looks nicer and lines up better with the picture. The picture used already is already used on the City of London page and it's nice to have a bit of diversity.--2economist2 (talk) 13:24, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I agree and support. --148.252.141.75 (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Also, there is repeated text in the energy sector section. I tried to remove it but someone keeps reverting my edits due to an edit war which was resolved already.--148.252.141.75 (talk) 13:28, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

 Comment: For the information of future participants interested in seeking consensus on both these issues, the above user and IP have been engaged in edit-warring and in restoring each other's edits. I've been around long enough on Wikipedia to have learnt that coincidences rarely, oh so rarely, occur. --Technopat (talk) 13:36, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

This looks like classic Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lam312321321. Belbury (talk) 08:53, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@Belbury: 2economist2 is already tagged as such. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

It wasn't at the time, it was merged after I flagged it. Belbury (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I see I should've checked the history then. Thanks for being on top of this one, I'll keep on eye out for them in the future. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Weird reference in Manufacturing section

There is a reference in the manufacturing section to a company.

In the 1970s, manufacturing accounted for over 20 percent of the economy. Total employment in manufacturing fell from 7.1 million in 1979 to 4.5 million in 1992 and only 2.7 million in 2016, when it accounted for 10% of the economy. Manufacturing has increased in 36 of the last 50 years and was twice in 2007 what is in 1958, manufactures include Autodesk.

The reference to Autodesk doesn't flow with the style of the paragraph, the reference link is strange, and the company listed here might not be the best representative of traditional manufacturing in the UK. I think the reference should be removed. Narkie (talk) 18:53, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2023

cuture = culture 75.82.33.0 (talk) 02:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Food and drink

@Liamstar2:, The areas I have put into farming falls under the food and beverage industry, the citation provides support this position. ChefBear01 (talk) 18:58, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @ChefBear01, as you can see, there is an agriculture sector section already. That section already explains what the farming sector produces in England. Liamstar2 (talk) 19:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC) ( Blocked sockpuppet of Lam312321321, see investigation)

There is crossover in regards to farming and agriculture, the citations support a move to merge agriculture into the food and drinks industry as these areas are cited as being part of the food and drinks industry.

we should see if there is consensus either way, I would like to invite users to give their thoughts on the topic being discussed

ChefBear0119:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your point of view. However, this is a page about the economy of England; it's a short overview of all the sectors of the English economy. The agriculture section is already well detailed along with the food and drink section under it.

You can add more detail into the food and drink industry in England page. Liamstar2 (talk) 20:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC) ( Blocked sockpuppet of Lam312321321, see investigation)

The information in that article includes information you have removed from the food and drinks section, also please note that that is not how wikipedia works, in the event of a disagreement a discussion takes place to see whether there is majority support for either view as per WP:CONSENSUSChefBear01 (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton:, thank you for your assistance in this discussion, I suspected there may be WP:Sockpuppet but I didn’t want to jump to conclusions as per WP:GOODFAITH. They have made more edits before the point it was reverted to and I am unsure if it all needs fixing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ChefBear01 (talk • contribs)

@M.Bitton:, I have been thinking and would like your advice, would it be better to just have the main opening text on the food and drink section with the list and remove the rest to prevent the article becoming too cluttered, there is a link to the main article which goes into detail on each area, or do you think it is better to have a short breakdown of each catergory on this article?.ChefBear01 (talk) 05:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@ChefBear01: I don't know much about the subject and I would have reverted all of their edits if yours weren't mixed with them (something that you're more than welcome to do). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 12:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton:, Thank you for your reply and input, I think that someone has reverted their previous edits I am not well versed in the WP:SOCK wiki policy though I have a general idea of the main article policies.ChefBear01 (talk) 13:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 July 2024

Rewrite the first sentence under alcoholic beverages.

In 2020 England sold 550,000 bottles of English wine to 50 countries worldwide, this is up from 256,000 in 2018. source: https://coatesandseely.com/grape-britain/ 90.243.63.3 (talk) 00:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done I changed this to 2019 because that's what the source says. Jamedeus (talk) 03:19, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Opps, sorry. I did mean 2019! Thank you! 90.243.63.3 (talk) 08:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 July 2024 (2)

Under history, link Industrial Revolution. This is helpful for readers who want to read more into it. Currently, it's a red dead link. 90.243.63.3 (talk) 08:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

 Fixed. That was originally red-linked due to the period being erroneously inside the brackets; it's good to go now. Left guide (talk) 10:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the speedy fix! Under Agriculture and fishing, there is also a tiny error, with the The fishing industry in England catches a variety of different fish and seafood including ( North Sea Cod, North Sea Whiting, North Sea Haddock, Southern Sea Crab, West of Scotland Nephrops and Eastern English Channel Scallops sentence

There is a random (. 90.243.63.3 (talk) 10:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

You bet! Good eye, just removed that one too, thanks. Left guide (talk) 10:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

I can see that two Lam sockpuppet have been banned, it is an ongoing issue with this user and I am wondering if there is any more action that could be taken to prevent further vandalism on this article.ChefBear01 (talk) 21:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 November 2024 ==

At present, the main image in the infobox at the start of the page doesn't represent the City of England well. It's just a few buildings. Could it be updated to this image, linked here? This image represents the City of London better. Antandbec (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC) — Antandbec (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Lam312321321 (talk · contribs).

Not done for now: The suggested image's primary buidling is clearly London Troops War Memorial, no relation to the article. ~/AWBunny:<ping> 08:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)