Talk:Government-in-exile
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CRPH Myanmar
[edit]Why it is not exist on the list while widely recognized as the civilian government-in-exile? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_Representing_Pyidaungsu_Hluttaw
Rights of government-in-exile
[edit]From information available on US Legal, it listed all the rights of a government-in-exile. I added a section called "Rights" to expand it.
AndyTheGrump wɔːr (talk) 14:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- The 'US Legal' website you linked is a generalist commercial website for US law, offering advice to consumers, rather than the sort of peer-reviewed academic source we'd need to make general assertions regarding any 'rights' under international law for governments-in-exile. The page you link is nothing but a confusingly-worded attempt at a definition. It is clearly not a reliable source for the content you added. None of the remaining sources were of any relevance whatsoever, given that they merely documented that certain governments-in-exile (self-described or otherwise), were doing certain things - not that international law afforded such actions any specific legitimacy etc. They cannot be cited for assertions about international law.
- Frankly, I think that any attempt to create a section on the supposed 'rights' of governments-in-exile in general is inherently flawed. No such generalist 'rights' can possibly exist, given that more or less anyone can call themselves a 'government-in-exile'. In as much as a specific body acquires 'rights', it will do so as a result of specific recognition, by legitimate sovereign states, or by intergovernmental organisations, for that particular body. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting to see your points.I wish to know how your arrived that US Law is just commercial website. For the single fact that government-in-exile means government-in-exile, it's not always the case they are recognised by any international law. wɔːr (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Re commercial website, see [1] and [2]. As for your comment about recognition, that is precisely why general 'rights' for bodies described as 'governments-in-exile' cannot exist. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, I am amazed at your level of research. This means the section have to be generally reformed avoiding the use of assertions of international law or whatsoever like "According to international law..." to qualify government-in-exile. Maybe we have to use Historically..." or "According to historical events..." to qualify whatever we are going to write. Start up something or should I? wɔːr (talk) 16:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Until you have found appropriate sources, there is nothing to write. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Searching the internet and you can as well help in the search. wɔːr (talk) 10:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Until you have found appropriate sources, there is nothing to write. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, I am amazed at your level of research. This means the section have to be generally reformed avoiding the use of assertions of international law or whatsoever like "According to international law..." to qualify government-in-exile. Maybe we have to use Historically..." or "According to historical events..." to qualify whatever we are going to write. Start up something or should I? wɔːr (talk) 16:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Re commercial website, see [1] and [2]. As for your comment about recognition, that is precisely why general 'rights' for bodies described as 'governments-in-exile' cannot exist. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting to see your points.I wish to know how your arrived that US Law is just commercial website. For the single fact that government-in-exile means government-in-exile, it's not always the case they are recognised by any international law. wɔːr (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Taiwan
[edit]Should ROC be considered not a government in exile, considering they still exercise full control over a territory of their former state? (Taiwan) The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 06:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Whether the ROC has territorial sovereignty over Taiwan is still debatable. See Retrocession Day#Interpretations and disputes. Matt Smith (talk) 11:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Syria
[edit]With the overthrow of Assad and his regime, I think the Syrian governments in exile are going to return. Should we remove Syria from the list? 80.42.151.129 (talk) 13:49, 8 December 2024 (UTC)