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Spam?

Someone has written this template:
Template:Major information technology consulting and outsourcing companies and included it in various places; see for eg. at the end of the Capgemini article. Whilst it looks to me like spam, I am not 100% certain so don't want to delete it. (Can't see what other purpose it would serve, though.) Regards, @GrayanOne.

Serge Kampf link incorrect redirection

The Wikipedia link to Serge Kampf, the founder redirects to Capgemini Wikipedia page. 45.84.40.166 (talk) 08:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

"Nationality" of Capgemini

There seems to be a concerted campaign by some unidentified individuals to define Capgemini as an “American-French multinational company”. See the recent amendments:

User: 91.184.107.158 04:17 17 June 2022

User: 91.184.107.164 14:38 24 June 2022

User: 103.210.146.96 12:41 7 August 2022

These amendments all justify this change using the same wording and so appear to be the work of the same user. They all justify the changes by stating that in 1974 the company was formed by the “merger of Gemini Computer Systems of New York, United States and CAP Centre d' Analyse of France”.

Note that:

- The 2021 Universal Registration Document, Group History section says “1974: The first acquisitions [by Sogeti] with the purchase of two competitors: CAP (France) and Gemini Computer Systems (USA).” It goes on to list many other acquisitions.

- Capgemini now operates worldwide in 50 countries. It is headquartered, and its shares are traded, in Paris.

- The 2021 results show revenue%/employees% breakdown as: Rest of Europe 31%/19%, North America 29%/6%, France 21%/11%, UK & Ireland 11%/4%, APAC & LATAM 8%/59%

Regardless of whether the event with the American company 48 years ago was an acquisition or a merger, this does not make Capgemini an American company today. There have been many acquisitions in many countries since 1974.

At present, all these amendments have been undone, correctly in my opinion, leaving the current description as “a multinational…company”. Do others agree, and how do we stop these repeated and unnecessary amendments and undoings?

Masato.harada (talk) 10:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

OK, those users have been blocked. Thanks. Masato.harada (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Relations between Capgemini and the public sector?'

I have removed the new section titled 'Relations between Capgemini and the public sector?' It may or may not be relevant, but it is currently incomprehensible and needs rewriting. If this section is added, it needs to explain: - what is 'the McKinsey case'? - what happened? - who was involved (is it only Capgemini France)? - what is the concern? - why is this notable? The final sentence is not a complete sentence, and the English needs to be improved throughout. Masato.harada (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I think it's derived from fr:Capgemini#Relations entre Capgemini et le secteur public. Judging from the citations I fixed, it may have been auto-translated. Certes (talk) 18:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Rather than get involved in edit wars (which some anonymous editors seem to wish), I have revised this section, including the tortuous English, and included a WP link to the McKinsey affair. I hope it can now be understood by those who are not familiar with detailed French political news. For avoidance of doubt, I have no conflict of interest and resent that unfounded allegation. I am trying to get this article to encyclopedic quality, and the previous auto-translations from French did not do that.Masato.harada (talk) 13:00, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this article section. When I read it, I find this mention of "McKinsey" in the first paragraph and I don't know why it's being mentioned. If I understand right, the company McKinsey is not related to CapGemini, correct? And the reason it is being mentioned is that it was the trigger for a more general investigation by the French government that also covered CapGemini, correct? (If so, I can tweak the section to be clearer.) mcld (talk) 07:49, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Correct, correct, and thank you, I'd appreciate your help. Masato.harada (talk) 16:55, 15 March 2023 (UTC)